THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT DIVORCE AND POSSIBLE REMARRIAGE

This is an internet exchange on an internet forum between Pastor Demers ("Wondrin") and another preacher in Meridian, Mississippi ("Nazarite"), which Pastor Demers  wanted me to put up on the website, because most people don’t understand what God says about divorce and remarriage, and a lot of people suffer because of this lack of understanding. This is an article which Pastor Demers wrote which explains what the Bible actually teaches about the subject.

 

THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT DIVORCE, (AND POSSIBLE REMARRIAGE)

(posted on an internet forum, Nov. 1, 2007 – Religion section) 

 

Wondrin                                                                                                         November 01, 2007, 06:42

THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT DIVORCE, (AND POSSIBLE REMARRIAGE)

"...WHAT GOD HAS PUT TOGETHER LET NO MAN SEPARATE..." Matthew 19:6

This verse starts with "Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh..."

It is quite clear that God AND GOD ALONE CAN PUT A COUPLE TOGETHER IN HOLY MATRIMONY..and no man (generic, nor woman) can ever take it apart.

So what is the real deal concerning divorce and remarriage...? Well, if you believe the Bible is God's Word ...and true... Hang on for the ride, I think you're in for some surprises.

Before I start, let me set the stage a bit...
Did you know that many Christians, both nominal and real, get divorced...? (and some remarried)...? Of course, you realize divorce can be a mutual decision...but many times it is unilateral and one party does NOT want it.

Do you realize the tremendous pain that many divorced folks experience and live with?

Do you have any idea of the torment some of these divorcees feel, as ther "friends" and even church folk and pastors tell them what "they know" about divorce (and remarriage)?

If you're one of the tormenters who KNOWS YOU'RE ALWAYS RIGHT AND COULD NEVER BE WRONG, and delights in hurting others with your knowledge of the scriptures...don't bother continuing...but if you are a victim, or are one who has compassion on someone you know or might meet, who suffers because of divorce in their life, READ ON!

I will start with a story or set of scenarios, and then prove the points in the Scriptures.

When does a marriage occur, or when is it consummated??
Of course, the marriage is accomplished when the couple comes together in sexual union... not during any of the traditional acts of man and society connected with marriage in various forms with various peoples and cultures.

(This is still the scenario; I only quote the scripture here to make a point.)

Let us witness the marriage of Isaac and Rebekah:
"Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and he took Rebekah; and she became his wife..." Genesis 24:67

Who marries who...? the man and woman are married to each other by the will and spiritual act of God. The pastor or rabbi or justice of the peace just officiates, they don't "marry" the couple... and neither does the ritual.

This brings up some interesting points...

If a marriage is consummated when the couple is joined in the first act of the intercourse, then does a marriage take place every time a couple have sex...? such as the so called "one night stand"...? Well of course not ... only God can put together a marriage ...and he doesn't put together one night stands or other illicit relationships, even if we tell our friends "it was made in heaven". God has a word for this type of self-chosen, self-centerered union... it is fornication or unchastity or immorality for the unmarried, and adultery for the married.

Now for the good stuff! Hold on to your hat and put on your thinking cap...here we go...

Think about the one night stand, the affair, the cheatin' heart...all participating in a self set-up relationship that God is not in and He is quite against. GOD'S POSITION ON THE MATTER IS QUITE CLEAR:
1. YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER DONE IT OR EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
2.YOU MUST STOP IT NOW, GET OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP, PUT HIM OR HER AWAY...NOW!
3. IT'S A SIN AND YOU NEED TO REPENT (BE SORRY, CONFESS, STOP IT, COMMIT TO NEVER CONSIDER IT AGAIN).
4. I (God speaking) DID NOT HAVE YOU DO THIS. YOU DID IN ON YOUR OWN AT THE DIRECTION OF SATAN AGAINST MY WILL.

Okay, let's say a person meets a member of the opposite sex, they date 6 years without touching at all... but they really like/love one another...But God is saying..no ... no... NO!... not that one...I DIDN'T choose that one to be your spouse...! Yet the couple goes on in euphorius infatuation, joyous compatibility, "truly in love", blinded to the conviction of God...as their friends all encourage them that theirs is a relationship made in heaven..he finally proposes..as God and the angels look on with disapproval and the devil smirks...6 months of planned betrothal, no physical contact beyond holding hands... wedding day...gown, tux, limo, friends, relatives, license, witnesses, rings, preacher, scriptures, vows, music, singing, flowers, reception, rice, cake, toast, ...honeymoon and they come together as one...
Yet GOD WAS NEVER IN IT and is quite angry at their going against His will.

Is this a marriage??? Or is it a fancy union of two people without God, that is a fancy fornication, unchastity, immorallity????
IT IS FORNICATION...FANCY, WELL- PLANNED ...FORNICATION...UNCHASTITY ... IMMORALITY... NO MATTER HOW YOU PACKAGE IT, GOD DID NOT PUT IT TOGETHER, AND HE IS NOT IN IT, IT IS SIN, GOD DID NOT PUT IT TOGETHER.
What you or I might put together without God is not the real deal.

As God is the actual authority to answer this question let's go back to our original scripture and see what He says:

"...What GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER LET NO MAN SEPARATE..."

God never joined this couple, they are living in sin with a license and a blessing, both by men...but without God...!!

So what should this couple do???

Well, your opinion and mine won't do... this is serious question, and and the answer has been confused by many religious traditions, many of which are contradictory...
LET'S GO TO THE SOURCE ... THE WORD...(LET'S FORGET WHAT WE WERE TAUGHT BY MOMMA, SHE'S BEEN WRONG BEFORE...REMEMBER THE SANTA CLAUS, EASTER BUNNY, TOOTH FAIRY THINGS SHE LAID ON US... NO OFFENSE MOMMA, THAT'S WHY GOD WANTS US TO READ HIS WORD FOR OURSELVES...uh-oh... sorry pastor, you've been wrong at times, too).

Let's go to the WORD:
In Matthew 5:32 Jesus said "...but I say to you everyone who divorces his wife EXCEPT FOR THE CAUSE OF UNCHASTITY (FORNICATION--KJV) makes her commit adultery ; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

It is quite clear that Jesus is making an exception to divorce: fornication...

Question : Can a married person commit fornication, or is it adultery for a truly by-God-married person???

In Matthew 19:9 Jesus repeats this exception:"And I say to you,whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery."

Before I proceed, please note that the literal translation of the word divorce in Hebrew-Aramaic or the Koine Greek is "PUT AWAY" or "SEND AWAY".
Also to think about: Could Michal divorce David for his act with Bathsheba??

As we proceed in the scriptures, you will see three things:

1.THERE IS NO ...NONE...NO VALID EXCEPTION FOR A GOD- ORDAINED MARRIAGE (and this is the only real marriage)

2.ADULTERY IS NOT...NOT...NOT AN EXCEPTION!

3. FORNICATION IS AN EXCEPTION AND IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE WE DESCRIBED ABOVE in our little scenario of the "fancy fornication".
I.e. there really was no "real marriage"; only a man-made marriage which is no marriage at all.

Please stay with me... it starts to get interesting here...

In Mark 10:11 Jesus gives no exception: "...Whoever divorces his wife and marries a wife commits adultery against her;" If you will read the whole passage of Mark 10:2-12 you will see more clearly the permanancy of a God-ordained marriage, without exception.

A careful reading of the whole passage of Matthew 19:3-11 will show that Jesus did not give any exception at first when asked "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for ANY CAUSE AT ALL???" Jesus' answer was an emphatic NO. See Matthew 19:6

He was finished with His answer at the end of verse 6... concerning God-ordained marriage..

It was only when pressed with another question in verse 7 that Jesus mentioned the exception of sinful relationships in putting away or divorcing.

Now let us remember that "what was written in former times is written for our instruction" and "not one letter or stroke of the old law will pass away until heaven and earth pass away" and "I (Jesus) did not come to abolish the old law but to fulfill it". And as it says in Acts 3:19-21 The Restoration (restitution--KJV) of all things, required before the second coming of Jesus Is "SPOKEN OF BY THE HOLY PROPHETS FROM ANCIENT TIMES" in the Old Testament.

So we are going to EZRA snd NEHEMIAH for further insight; then we'll finish up in 1 Corinthians...

To better understand the scriptures in Ezra and Nehemiah,remember that in the Old Testament, the chosen people were the Hebrews and then the Jews... In the New covenant in the Blood of Jesus, the chosen people are "Any man (generic-or woman)from any nation who fears God and does what is right..."
In the Old Testament the foreign woman was the one not Hebrew or Jewish by birth... in the New Covenant the foreign woman (man) is the one not of God, not chosen,reprobate.

Lets look:

"And Shecaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam , answered and said to Ezra, 'We have been unfaithful to our God, and have married foreign women from the peoples of the land; yet now there is hope for Israel in spite of this.
So now let us make a covenant with our God to PUT AWAY all the wives and their children acording to the counsel of my lord and of those who tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.
Arise! For this matter is your responsibility, but we will be with you; be courageous and act.'" Ezra 10:2-4

23"In those days I also saw that the Jews had married women from Ashdod , Ammon, And Moab ."

25"So I contended with them and cursed them and struck some of them and pulled out their hair, and made them swear by God, 'You shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor take of their daughters for your sons or for yourselves."

27"'Do we then hear about you that you have committed al this great evil by acting unfaithfully against our God by marrying foreign women?'" Nehemiah 13:23 ,25,27

As we read the above scriptures, it is important that we remember that "put away" and "divorce" are the same words. As we can see here, God is obviously violently against His people being married to foreign women, and wants them put away.

As we know, the new covenant in the blood of Jesus has fulfilled or completed that which was in the old covenant under the old law of Moses. So let's go to the new covenant scriptures in Corinthians addressing this issue:

10"But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband.
11 But if she does leave, let her remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband, and that the husband should not send his wife away.
12 But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, let him not send her away.
13 And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, let her not send her husband away.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sancitified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.
15 Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace."

27 "Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released; Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife.
28 But if you should marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin should marry, she has not sinned. Yet such will have trouble in this life, and I am trying to spare you."
1 Corinthians 7:10-15, 27-28

We can see here that in the new covenant, God's mercy and grace are much more manifest than in the harshness of Nehemiah and Ezra. But the underlying principles and will of God's Word have not changed.

In the Old Testament, it was clear who was or wasn't chosen, by bloodlines. But in the New Testament, it is God's choice, and only He knows with certainty who is chosen. So the couple under stress has to be careful not to act presumptuously.

It is clear from the verses in 2 Corinthians 7:11-14, that if a believer is married to an unbeliever, one should persist and hope for the mercy of God, that the unbeliever comes to salvation. As we'll see in 1 Peter 3:1, even if your husband is sinning his guts out, this is still true:
"In the same way, you wives be submissive to your own husbands, so that even if any of them are disobedient to the Word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior."

And as we discussed earlier, this would include for the sin of adultery. [Please, you've come this far, stay with me for the completion and some very interesting surprises--some you may like, and some you may not--they're all from the Word.]

A story on this thing concerning adultery not being an exception:
I was once visiting, in his office, a very nice, very tall, very good-looking, basketball player-appearing, second-generation Church of Christ elder/teacher who was quite convinced that adultery was an exception. So I asked him, since he had been married, had he ever looked on a woman, other than his wife, with lust? Being quite honest, he immediately said that yes, he had, on more than one occasion. So I asked him for his phone, which he gave me, and then I asked him for his home phone number, which, as he gave it to me he asked me "Why do you want my home phone number, since I am here?" And as I began dialing his number, I told him, "Well, Jesus said if you've even thought about it you've committed the sin, so you're an adulterer... So, according to your doctrine, your wife's at liberty to divorce you...I wanted to let her know."

He grabbed the phone from my hand, hung it up, and said, "I can see you have a point, and I'm wrong.
Yes, I guess if adultery was an exception, pretty much all of us would be fair game."

So, what of the real exception--fornication, unchastity, immorality, that is a relationship that may look like a marriage but is not? That is covered in 1 Corinthians 7:15. The question obviously is, what if one of us makes the mistake and marries a son of the devil, a reprobate, a person who is never going to be called? Are we saddled with that mistake forever? Or has Jesus told us that that marriage was not put together by My Father, it is not a real marriage...you CAN put him or her away.

But because you cannot be sure, as the believer, what the actual spiritual condition of your spouse is, 1 Corinthians 7:15 shows that the believer must just continues to love and respect their errant spouse until God acts to remove the offender. This will happen by death or divorce initiated by the offender.

IF, AND ONLY IF, THE UNBELIEVER WHO DIVORCES YOU WAS NEVER IN A GOD-ORDAINED MARRIAGE WITH YOU, THEN ...
1 Corinthians 7:27-28 Shows that you should not seek a wife (spouse), but if God brings you one, IT IS ALLOWED.

Again, verse 15 shows that God is calling the person in a bad relationship to peace... The offender is spiritually dead and without hope, God's opinion.

We've come a long way here...Let's summarize some points:

1. There is no cause for divorce in a marriage according to Matthew 19:6.
2. There is no exception, including adultery.
3. If a person is involved with a "marriage" of their own making and not of God, it is fornication, unchastity, immorality and the relationship must cease.
4. There are conditions under which a person who had been married will be married again. Let me discuss this one a bit:

"WHAT GOD HAS PUT TOGETHER...LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER"....

i) Man can't...God can, if He Chooses

ii) If there never was a real marriage, of course you can marry the person God had waiting for you all along.
Many times this is exactly what happens... We "marry", with all the trappings of our tradition, someone whom God has not chosen...He is against it, just like the one night stand.
There is no marriage by God--only formality in paperwork, actions and words...sin just the same.
And, at times in this situation, God has the person He had always intended for us, just waiting for us to put away the usurper/offender that we chose..

Whew!!... that was a lot of work... please adress your questions.

And for you vicious attackers...lay off for a while...this matter is very serious and hurtful to many ...in your effort to hurt me, you could cause some collateral damage...might I suggest you also just pose your questions in restraint and love as opposed to your former vitriolic, mean affronts.....? On behalf of the hurting ones, thank you.

I don't know if you know how terrible it feels to think you are damned because of former ignorance or matters beyond your control.

Also KNOW THIS:
1. ADULTERY IS A FORGIVABLE SIN
God forgave King David, perhaps it's time for some of you to forgive.
2. FORNICATION IS A FORGIVABLE SIN
3. All sins are forgivable if recognized, confessed, and repented of (stopped by faith for the love of God); all except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

And what if God intended/intends someone to marry someone HE chose, and that someone doesn't because of some old traditional, MISINTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE PERPETRATED BY AN OVERZEALOUS SPIRITUAL "KLANSMAN"?

Might I suggest we all relax... in peace and love... and be patient? The Word will not change...it's you and I that must change.

You might ask: Why did my pastor never tell me all this...?
Perhaps, as Timothy, he needs to find an apostle to teach him.


 

SHALOM,

 

Wondrin

 

 

Nazarite:                                                                                                                     November 02, 2007, 18:23

 

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Originially posted by Wondrin:

 

IF, AND ONLY IF, THE UNBELIEVER WHO DIVORCES YOU WAS NEVER IN A GOD-ORDAINED MARRIAGE WITH YOU, THEN …

1 Corinthians 7:27-28 Shows that you should not seek a wife (spouse), but if God brings you one, IT IS ALLOWED.

 

Wondrin

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Wondrin,

 

I have been following your post. I believe the other posters are asking a simple question. It seems that you are saying the only way to know if your marriage is not of God… and therefore sinful… is if your spouse divorces you. If that happens then you are free to marry again? Is that correct?

 

I have a problem with the a few of the scriptures you have pointed out in reference. The one above is one example. You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct?

Because this scripture does not refer to a divorced person, but one who has never been married. remember one of the first rules of biblical interpretation is “If it didn’t mean it then… it cannot mean it now”. Several of your scriptures are used out of context… or at least based upon the premise that if you marry someone who is not who God wanted you to marry then you are committing fornication. But that does not hold true biblically. Was Bathsheba with the one who wanted David to marry?

 

I will stop their please respond to these two questions.

 

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Wondrin                                                                                                         November 03, 2007, 03:15

THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT DIVORCE, (AND POSSIBLE REMARRIAGE)

 

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            Originally posted by Nazarite:

 

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Originally posted by Wondrin

                                                                                                                                                       

IF, AND ONLY IF, THE UNBELIEVER WHO DIVORCES YOU WAS NEVER IN A GOD-ORDAINED MARRIAGE WITH YOU, THEN …

1 Corinthians 7:27-28 Shows that you should not seek a wife (spouse), but if God brings you one, IT IS ALLOWED.

 

Wondrin

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Wondrin,

 

I have been following your post. I believe the other posters are asking a simple question. It seems that you are saying the only way to know if your marriage is not of God… and therefore sinful… is if your spouse divorces you. If that happens then you are free to marry again? Is that correct?

 

I have a problem with the a few of the scriptures you have pointed out in referencea few of the . The one above is one example. You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct?

Because this scripture does not refer to a divorced person, but one who has never been married. remember one of the first rules of biblical interpretation is “If it didn’t mean it then… it cannot mean it now”. Several of your scriptures are used out of context… or at least based upon the premise that if you marry someone who is not who God wanted you to marry then you are committing fornication. But that does not hold true biblically. Was Bathsheba the one wh wanted David to marry?

o God

I will stop their please respond to these two questions.

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REPLY BY WONDRIN:

 

Dear Nazarite,

Good to hear form you…Hope you are well..

 

As to your first question:

 

Quote by Nazarite:

“I have been following your post. I believe the other posters are asking a simple question. It seems that you are saying the only way to know if your marriage is not of God… and therefore sinful… is if your spouse divorces you. If that happens then you are free to marry again? Is that correct?”

 

Wondrin’s answer:

 

Not quite…

Just because your spouse divorces you through the courts, that does not necessarily mean you are free to remarry … and in most cases this is not the case. (Also, please remember that God’s Word is irrelevant to nonbelievers, and to many so-called “believers”

who will face their own judgment in the end.)

 

Many times, people whom God has put together act on emotion, and/or bad advice or improper teaching. I truly believe most divorces are caused by improper teaching by the pastors, prior to and during marriage. Remember, God Said: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge…” Hosea 4:6. What more efficient way could the devil muster to destroy God’s people than to have the couples ill-prepared for marriage, thus leaving the families open to the hideous sin of divorce?

 

So the simple answer to your question is …NO!and NO!(There are 2 parts to your first question)

 

As to your second question:

 

Quote by Nazarite:

 

“I have a problem with the scriptures you have pointed out in referencea few of the . The one above is one example. You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct?”

 

Wondrin’s answer…

Remember, there is more than one possibility for the spiritual condition of a couple under stress that results(ed) in the process and actions of divorce:

1. One or both could have committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and can thus never be forgiven.

2. One or both of them could just be committing the sin of divorce and need to repent to be reconciled.

3. One or both of the couple may never have been saved.

4. The couple may have never been married, as per the “fancy fornication” of the original post (please review this now).

 

Remember, God said:

“…What GOD HAS put together let NO MAN separate…” Matthew 19:6

 

Under condition # 1 above, if the believer finds himself married to one who is “doubly dead” and without hope of redemption, God has made provision to release this person from bondage to a son of satan, to “bring them to peace”.

Under this condition, God has made it clear that:

- You should not seek a wife(spouse);

- But if you marry( obviously God means if He give you a spouse and puts you together in marriage), YOU HAVE NOT SINNED.

 

Again:

“…What GOD HAS put together let no man separate…” Matthew 19:6

 

God puts together and can separate at His will…not ours

 

Under condition #4 above, the action is obvious:

the couple is unmarried and living in sin, with the added complication of a “legal marriage” according to man’s law. All the traditional prayers and vows of a big church wedding cannot change the fact that only God can put a couple together.

 

Nazarite, it is so hard for you to believe that it is possible for any one of us to be capable of the sin of selecting a mate who is a son of hell and/or just not one God will allow us to be wed to??? Is it so hard for you to believe that GOD, IN HIS MERCY, HAS MADE PROVISION FOR EVERY DUMB OR SINFUL ERROR WE MIGHT MAKE????

 

As to your THIRD question:

 

Quote by Nazarite:

“Was Bathsheba the one who wanted David to marry?”

 

The simple answer is…OF COURSE! … God is

sovereign… His ways are above our ways … and unfathomable…

 

Yes, David was wrong…seriously, sinfully wrong…but God “causes all things to work together for good…”…so He got His way…HIS WAY…as He always does…even though we don’t understand.

 

God allowed Bathsheba’s husband to be killed, and struck the child of the illicit union with a sickness that led to death…. but He allowed David and Bathsheba to live…married!

 

God is so cool on how He can make something good out of the mess we make, if we just repent and return to Him as David did!!!!

THANK YOU JESUS!!!!

 

So there it is: God has made a provision for every situation we might find ourselves in.

But HE is in charge, not us.

 

The question comes up, “well, how do you know where you or your spouse are…?, that is, what condition you’re in???

The answer is that the churches today are ill- equipped to answer this question, and thus the question arises. You see, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” is all too real and accurate in the area of marriage and divorce. Also, many of the churches today think the spirit they are following is the Holy Spirit … but, not so, they are following the counterfeit of Ephesians 2:1,2(Remember, a “good” counterfeit looks like the real thing)

 

[Note: There is a foolproof, scriptural way to “test the spirits” that Jesus showed me which I would be glad to share.]

 

Rest assured that the answer to this question is also part of the “RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS” which God says is required to prepare the Bride for the Second Coming of Jesus…

And, teaching this to the pastors is part of my job…please pray that they stop hating and start listening, with open hearts and minds.

 

Please continue to interact if you feel I have been unclear or incomplete.

 

Nice talkin’ to you, Nazarite…

Could you please consider reading my original post, keeping in mind the thoughts contained in this post…? Thanks…

 

 

SHALOM,

 

Wondrin

 

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Wondrin, November 03, 2007 11:35

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Wondrin                                                                                                         November 03, 2007, 12:00

 

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            Originally posted by Nazarite:

 

Wondrin, Could you explain your posting regarding the scripture in 1 Cor. That seems to be used out of context.

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REPLY BY WONDRIN:

 

Dear Nazarite,

 

I would be glad to attempt to explain…

 

Could you please give the exact scripture and delineate your question a bit more…

 

Thank you…

 

 

SHALOM,

 

WONDRIN

 

 

Nazarite                                                                                                          November 03, 2007, 14:55

 

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            Originally posted by Nazarite:

 

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                        Originally posted by Wondrin:

 

IF, AND ONLY IF, THE UNBELIEVER WHO DIVORCES YOU WAS NEVER IN A GOD-ORDAINED MARRIAGE WITH YOU, THEN …

1 Corinthians 7:27-28 Shows that you should not seek a wife (spouse), but if God brings you one, IT IS ALLOWED.

 

Wondrin                                                                                                                                   

 

 

I have a problem with the a few of the scriptures you have pointed out in reference. The one above is one example. You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct? 

Because this scripture does not refer to a divorced person, but one who has never been married. remember one of the first rules of biblical interpretation is “If it didn’t mean it then… it cannot mean it now”.

                                                                                                                                                                         

 

this scripture… I confused the chap reference  

 

 

Wondrin                                                                                                         November 03, 2007, 18:16  

 

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            Originally posted by Nazarite:

 

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Originally posted by Nazarite:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wondrin:

 

IF, AND ONLY IF, THE UNBELIEVER WHO DIVORCES YOU WAS NEVER IN A GOD-ORDAINED MARRIAGE WITH YOU, THEN …

1 Corinthians 7:27-28 Shows that you should not seek a wife (spouse), but if God brings you one, IT IS ALLOWED.

Wondrin                                                                                                                                   

 

NAZARITE

 

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I have a problem with the a few of the scriptures you have pointed out in reference. The one above is one example. You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct? 

Because this scripture does not refer to a divorced person, but one who has never been married. remember one of the first rules of biblical interpretation is “If it didn’t mean it then… it cannot mean it now”.

 

this scripture… I confused the chap reference  

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REPLY FROM WONDRIN:

 

Dear Nazarite:

 

Only God can “release”(loose – KJV) a person from marriage…

 

Remember “What GOD HAS PUT TOGETHER let NO MAN PUT ASUNDER” Matthew 19:6

 

No one can ever take apart a God ordained marriage…that is no man…

 

However GOD CAN AND DOES UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES as per HIS WORD, as delineated in my earlier post(s).

 

One example would be if a believe is married to a person who commits the unforgiveable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit… In this case God would release the believer from the bondage of a marriage to one who is doubly dead, devoid of the spirit, and without hope.

Please read 1 Corinthians 7:15;27;27 again…

 

YOUR QUESTION NAZARITE:

“You quote this scripture saying that if one is divorced and does not seek a mate but God gives that person a new spouse it is ok to marry. Is this correct?”

 

WONDRIN’S ANSWER:

The answer is, NOT NECESSARILY, only in the case in which God has released the believer, so there is no marriage. But, in the case where GOD HAS released a person, that person should not seek a spouse, but if God has planned for a replacement, then that person should, of course, marry the person God is giving them to marry…

Think Ahasuerus with Vashti and Esther in the first chapter of the book of Esther.

 

To help here, remember that the person who commits blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is DEAD spiritually, and never has a another chance to come into eternal life. The subject of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is another that is not very well understood in today’s apostate church … but, it too is explained in the teachings of the Restoration of all Things).

 

Nazarite…I hope I have communicated to your point and question… but if I have missed it, please persist…thank you.

 

This subject is very serious and very sensitive since it deals with the institution of marriage and many times children are involved. As I have noted in the past, the churches today are sorely lacking in their understanding of God’s Word and Will here. I believe that most divorces, of those who call Jesus Lord, could be avoided with proper instruction from the pulpits. Hopefully, we will take this opportunity in Meridian, to move forward on the instruction, not only on marriage, but on all the points where the apostacy has caused us to “fall away from the faith”, that could lead to understanding and the Restoration(or as in the KJV—the restituion—what the thief has stolen must be brought back) of All Things.

 

May the pastors stop fearing, hating, threatening, banning, and slandering and, in Jesus’ name, begin to listen, patiently, with sincere hearts and open minds…in order that we all move towards the Unity of the Faith. And perhaps they could also suggest that the sheep,(especially those sheep in political or governmental power) in their charge, do the same, in order to reduce the amount of persecution and distraction from the God-given task.

 

 

MAY WE ALL TOGETHER SAY FROM OUR HEARTS …TO OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN…

 

NOT OUR WILL, BUT YOUR WILL BE DONE

 

Maranatha, come LORD JESUS!!!

 

 

SHALOM,

 

Wondrin

 

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Wondrin, November 04, 2007 01:45

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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